Me: There are a lot of folks who view animal and human liberation as separate entities, or are mutually exclusive. Can you speak to how GLC holds space for both?
A: That's a deep question. At Highline, we had a customer, a regular, he started to come in and order food, he was vegan. And this was pre-pandemic, so probably 2019. He came in for a couple months, and it was like whatever, then one day he came in and he had a hoodie or flannel open. He had a Trump shirt on! I didn’t know how to handle that. I was stuck in my tracks. I didn’t know what to say. Ya got this vegan, coming in for a while, he was nice, I never really had conversations with him or anything, he just came in, bought some food, ate it…maybe had a beer, whatever. And to me, supporting Trump is absolutely NOT supporting human liberation. Even though he was a vegan, saying he cares about animals. That threw me for a loop. I never saw him again after that.
A few weeks later, [a customer] shows me a picture of this guy, and asks me if he’s been in there. I said “yeah,” and she said, “We’ve been tracking local proud boys, and this guy’s a proud boy and he’s vegan. We were wondering if he’s been coming in here.” I said, “Yeah he was coming in here, I haven’t seen him for a couple weeks now.” And I never saw him since. It was bizarre.
I dunno where I'm getting with this, but it made me think about human liberation and animal liberation as one. How could you be against certain people because of the way they look or the way they are or chose to be, then have compassion for animals? You can’t have one without the other. I dunno how that is. It doesn’t compute in my mind how people are like that.
Me: How have you noticed vegan food change over the years? What would you say to curious omnivores?
A: The quality and flavor of vegan food has come a long way. It’s not just rabbit food, it’s not just flavorless tofu. It’s way more than that. It’s evolved so much. It’s delicious, it’s not like it used to be. And I think that’s the biggest thing for omnivores: it’s not like that one time ya had it ten years ago. That being said, here in Seattle, I think a lot of places are lacking a lot of flavor in their foods, and that’s turning off a lot of people who are trying vegan food. As much as it’s come a long way, it’s dialed back in the last few years. Cost of goods, cost of labor, most can’t afford what I’m doing. Try another place! There’s so much delicious vegan food out there.
“[Also] seitan is magical,” he later raved.
Me: GLC’s food tastes like it could’ve been packaged for grocery stores (as in: delicious and comforting like some of the big brands), but y’all make it in-house. How did you learn to do that? What’s the R&D process like?
A: Trial and error. Then other people’s recipes on the internet, various cookbooks, seeing what they do, take it from there, and make it our own with different flavors. At GLC, we have a very unique way of making food. So we try to figure out how to make it in this oven—that’s all we have. We have a couple of electric burners, but the kitchen is tiny. We have a small convection oven and we make the seitan in there, then a couple burgers…We learned to make [food] in that, which took a while. [Due to COVID it took two months to get the EIN needed to officially open for business.] …So that really gave us an opportunity. We spent two months working on each item. It takes a long time for each one to get it right. Right now we’re working on a brunch menu. And we’ve got a couple items that we’re pretty stoked on.